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DR. SANDRA WISE & Her Wisdom!

February 13, 2023 52 Comments
Contessa Lucy Daisy Cow

DO YOU PICK OUT YOUR OUTFIT OR DO YOU FIND YOUR LOCATION SHOOT FIRST ON INSTAGRAM?

YOUR MAGIC IN MATCHING YOUR LOCATION IS REMARKABLE!  

(Lucy Daisy, my beloved orphaned bovine)

Well, thank you for those kind words, Elizabeth. I do have somewhat of a process. I prefer to show mostly thrifted garments, so I always choose the outfit first since it is difficult to shop for something specific in a thrift store. (I have found that the key to successful thrifting is to never go in looking for a particular style or color.) Hence, I think it is easier to do it this way, as there are many more locations to choose from than specific items in thrift stores.

I style the outfit at home, pose, and take a quick photo in a mirror so I won’t forget which accessories I chose. I look at the photo numerous times over the next few days and let my right brain do the work of ENVISIONING a site. I try to mentally “see” it in an environment that would enhance the outfit. 

The trick in coming up with an effective location is to make the creative process strictly VISUAL – I don’t use words or descriptors. I use pictures. Once I start using words, I’ve then switched to left brain processing, and that is not always helpful in creative pursuits since our left brain doesn’t deal in visions. It uses analytical tools and logic, focusing on details and parts – in other words, “THE TREES.” 

On the other hand, our right brain uses visual means to make decisions, e.g., shapes, forms, and “big picture” tools – “THE FOREST.” When choosing a site, you want to see the whole picture first, then when you scout out and finally arrive at your location, you can rearrange small details as needed.

 

DO YOU ENJOY INSTAGRAM? CAN YOU TELL US WHY? 

I do, and two factors come to mind as to why. First, I enjoy the creative process immensely, particularly writing the captions. Although I am aware that Instagram is primarily a visual medium, I tend to focus strongly on the message in the caption. I want that message to be information laden, inspirational, or thought-provoking regarding the aging process, life itself, or simply human nature. Instagram provides me the opportunity to do that by applying what I have learned in 76 years of life and in my career.

Although I do not present myself as such on Instagram, professionally I am a clinical psychologist, and I have also worked as an adjunct university professor for many years. Although “Dr. Wise” would have been an impressive Instagram handle, from the beginning I knew that I didn’t want the focus to be on my career – but rather on the fact that I am simply a typical older woman who is musing about life and moving forward through the aging process just like everyone else. However, I do like to weave in information and insights that I have garnered over my many years of practice and teaching psychology.

The second reason I enjoy Instagram is the marvelous opportunity to interact with others across the globe. There is potentially great benefit and comfort in connecting with folks who have similar concerns and interests – even if it is online. The aging process would be a lot more difficult if we were isolated from a supportive and encouraging community like that which Instagram can offer. Additionally, it is a pure delight to share fashion photos from different eras (my favorites are the 1920s, 30s, and 50s) with women who also love those styles.

 HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN ENJOYING THIS SOCIAL MEDIA SITE?

As my first experience with any social media, I started posting on Instagram in July of 2020, after a suggestion from my son, a physician, who was aware of how much I missed my work and my teaching during the lockdown. 

Instagram did indeed provide me with an outlet during that time and, although the world is not as isolated now as it was during the pandemic, I continue to enjoy posting and connecting to the broader community. I have no intention of abandoning this rewarding pursuit in the near future – that is, unless thrift shops and bargain stores run out of clothes for me to recycle or purchase inexpensively. At that point, I may need to find a new project!

YOU HAVE AN EASE AND SIMPLICITY OF PUTTING TOGETHER AN OUTFIT FROM HEAD TO TOE.WAS THAT LEARNED OR WERE YOU BORN WITH THAT INATE GIFT?

I do appreciate those kind words, Elizabeth. My mother was my first role model in this regard. She had a difficult and challenging life after she became responsible for her family while she was still in high school due to her mother losing her eyesight. Additional burdens were added after she married a few years later only to lose my father in a military aircraft accident. (I was just 3 months old at the time, with a sister who was 3.) 

Despite all this, my mother always took pride in her appearance and demonstrated that a woman does not need a lot of money, time, or special training to dress and carry herself attractively. She taught my sister and me how to shop for bargains and how to sew our own clothes. 

By age 14, I was making all my clothes and would spend hours looking through pattern books in fabric stores. This was my first experience viewing fashion photography in a magazine-like format. I was fascinated by the fact that a young girl like me could express herself and demonstrate individuality by making her own clothes. I also made simple belts, beret hats, and scarves.

I bought my first fashion hat at age 14 – a wide-brim peach halo hat that I found in a bargain bin. This began a life-long love for hats. I’ve always found that a hat finishes off an outfit like nothing else. Perhaps more importantly, however, I discovered early in life that hats draw attention to faces – and FACIAL EXPRESSION AND EYES ARE WHERE HUMAN CONNECTION OCCURS. (This is why I never wear sunglasses in photos.) My understanding of human interaction and psychology started here.

Contessa Lucy Daisy Cow

TELL US ABOUT YOUR WORK WITH THE COWS AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF!

I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED A PET COW BUT DO NOT SEE THAT HAPPENING NOW IN MY MID SIXTIES.

Well, first I’ll say that it is never too late to bond with a cow, Elizabeth, so don’t give up yet! As to how I became involved with cows and horses, it was through an old-fashioned cowboy I serendipitously met in 1999 when I was working as the mental health director in a prison in Colorado. Many prisons out west have vocational programs wherein incarcerated individuals learn to train horses. I studied horse training under this marvelous cowboy/trainer for several years before learning about cows.

By 2002, after working in private practice and serving in federal and state prison positions, I was looking for a different approach to help people with mental health challenges who didn’t necessarily respond well to traditional office-based psychotherapy, often referred to as “talk therapy.” 

I wanted to do experiential, or “hands-on” work, wherein the clients are actually “experiencing” their problems in real time, not just talking about those problems in an office. I thought the best way to do this might be with animals – specifically animals of prey. 

This is where my work with the cowboy/horse trainer came in. Here’s an example of how this therapeutic approach works: Rather than describing a difficulty with trust or impatience while sitting in an office, an individual would actually experience it by attempting to bond with an untrained cow or horse, or by trying to teach the animal to follow a command. 

It takes a lot of effort to gain the trust of untrained animals of prey and to also learn to trust them. In this type of work a psychologist facilitates the human-animal interaction and then conducts a “debriefing” in which the lessons learned in the hands-on experience with the animals are applied to the “real life” human situation. It’s a very powerful form of therapy.  

To tie up the ends of this story, after spending several years studying animal behavior and learning specifically how to handle and train horses, I took on the more challenging task of working with cows. This opportunity came about when I was tasked with bottle feeding an orphaned calf I named Lucy Daisy. The rest is history, as they say. I have posted a few photos of Lucy with me on Instagram over the past few years, but she doesn’t seem interested in having her own account yet. (If you are personally interested, Elizabeth, I tell her story in a short video here: 3rd video down at: https://eyeofahorse.com/cows.html).  

YOU LIVED IN THE HAWAIIAN ISLANDS IN THE 1980’S.

WHAT TOOK YOU THERE AND HOW DID YOU DRESS IN THOSE DAYS?

CAN YOU SHARE A PHOTO OR THREE?

  WHAT DID YOU PICK UP FROM THE HAWAIIAN WOMEN?

My husband’s career took us to Hawaii – and to other locations which offered a variety of marvelous personal opportunities for me, including performing professional pantomime, fashion modeling, learning to draft sewing patterns, owning a modeling/finishing school, various athletic pursuits (racquetball tournaments, weight-lifting contests, mini-triathlons), scuba diving, and raising two wonderful boys (who went to 13 different schools before graduating from high school). 

My husband’s career also provided me with ample opportunities to “dress up” for formal events. We moved to Hawaii from Washington D.C., where I was accustomed to wearing little black dresses or classic formal gowns for the required special events, however, I quickly learned that the Hawaiian social scene was very different. 

Many women wore beautiful loose-flowing palazzo pant suits in gorgeous colorful silk prints. (As a side note, our next move was to Japan, where I continued to wear some of my Hawaiian evening wear much to the surprise of many women there who were not used to seeing palazzo pants at formal events in the early 1980s.)

While in Hawaii, I acquired a great appreciation of nature, as it is woven into so many aspects of life there. I took up jogging, hiked in the beautiful backwoods, gained an appreciation for motorcycle riding on back roads, learned Hawaiian dancing, and I came to love haku leis which are basically a crown of live flowers made to be worn in women’s hair. For a hat lover like me, I adored the idea from day one.

(Mosey, a marvelous friend who loves to be brushed and hugged)

AS A WOMAN IN YOUR 70’S CAN YOU TELL US WHICH DECADE WAS YOUR FAVORITE AND WHY? 

I would have to begin by saying that, for me, every decade has been filled with both positive and negative aspects, which is, of course, true for many folks. However, my thoughts about “favorite decades” are highly influenced by the fact that we moved around so much. Because of this, when I think of my past, I categorize it more by different locations and how I occupied myself at each one, rather than by different decades. So maybe this isn’t the best question for me, but I’ll give it a try.

In doing a quick review, I can honestly say that I did love my 60s, perhaps because we were living in one place for that entire decade which allowed me to really establish myself. But there is also another important factor: Somewhere in the middle of that decade I suddenly realized that I was already past the age when many women begin concerning themselves with aging. 

The fact that I was getting older never really crossed my mind in my 40s, 50s, or 60s, as I was too busy in graduate school and establishing my psychology practices. Hence, by the time the idea of aging came to my mind in my late 60s, I guess I figured that I was safely past the normal “worrying” stage and would, therefore, never need to concern myself about the issue at all. I’m sure that this enlightenment added to my enjoyment of that wonderful decade.

When I entered my 70s, however, I knew then that I was certainly considered an “older” woman by our society’s standards, regardless of what I was personally feeling about myself. I know this has negatively affected me, as I am now much more aware of signs of ageism in our culture. Also, I am beginning to experience some physical “complaints,” such as a bit of morning stiffness, a little less flexibility, and thinning silver hair (though I love the color). I have also developed a benign tremor in my hands, which annoys me tremendously. 

Overall, however, I am still blessed with good health, and I know that I am fortunate compared to many others my age. I exercise regularly and eat a healthy diet. I enjoy resistance training, Pilates, swimming laps, and a bit of easy jogging. My favorite exercise is working out on the speed bag (which I also taught to incarcerated females), although I’ve been sidelined recently with a shoulder impingement – another one of those physical “complaints” that come with age. 

In my 70s I am learning that aging comes with both benefits and impediments, and it’s best to embrace both. Even with the wrinkles, crepey skin, and some physical complaints, I usually manage to focus on the bright side of this decade, which includes more discretionary time, easier decision-making regarding doing whatever I want, less stress, and fewer concerns about what others think of me.

And, finally, although this may be a sad commentary on our culture, I’d like to add this: By the time you hit your late 70s, our society doesn’t really expect much from you. Therefore, sometimes folks are pleasantly surprised when they discover that many of us septuagenarians can still do a lot of things that some younger folks can’t seem to master. And I do enjoy it when that happens. This is an especially sweet part of my 70s!

DOES GETTING DRESSED FOR THE DAY IMPROVE YOUR MOOD?

ANY EXAMPLES COME TO MIND?

Personally, and as a psychologist, I can attest to the fact that this is true. Many treatment plans for clinical depression, for example, include suggestions to not only take care of basic hygiene every day, but also to make efforts to style your hair and dress attractively even if you are at home by yourself. 

Both the image we carry of ourselves – and the one we see staring back at us from the mirror – are important and can either positively or negatively impact our state of mind. The mind and body are connected and, consequently, one can affect the other. So, why wouldn’t we use this powerful mind-body connection to our advantage?

Also, many women have experienced the mood-elevation that comes when a stranger in a supermarket comments about their outfit. It might be helpful for us to think about it this way: By getting dressed for the day, I know that I put myself in a better position to perhaps receive such a lovely gesture of kindness. 

For me, I personally enjoy complimenting any woman, even a stranger, who looks like she took a bit of effort to dress or fix her hair in an attractive way. It’s wonderful to see her face brighten. I have come to the conclusion that it feels just as good to be a giver as a receiver of a simple little compliment, thus making it a win-win situation for both parties.

Taking pride in your presentation, which also includes being aware of your posture and facial expressions, is the healthiest way to interact with the rest of the world and to improve your own mood if you are feeling down.

ANY ADVISE FOR WOMEN WHO ARE STARTING ON A NEW CHAPTER IN THEIR LIFE?

 COULD BE AN EMPTY NESTER OR DOWN SIZING OR BECOMING A WIDOW?

Transitions are always challenging, as it is natural for our psyches to remind us of what we are losing as we leave the previous chapter. Because of a concept known as “state-dependent memory,” a current loss always cues up other losses we have experienced in the past, even all the way back to childhood. That’s why taking a future-oriented perspective is helpful, rather than remaining stuck in what “used to be.”

I have experienced this personally, as in one span of 26 years my family moved more than 13 times due to my husband’s career. I was never able to carry over whatever personal projects I had built (e.g., modeling work, a performing pantomime troop, working on getting my pilot’s license, owning a modeling/finishing school in Washington D.C., etc.). I always lost whatever I had established at our previous location, only to begin a different adventure when we landed in our new home. 

Though it took a number of years to achieve, I finally found that the best approach to the “new chapter” situation is to embrace this perspective and belief: It is difficult to connect the steppingstones in your life going forward. It is only upon looking back that you will realize how situations you encountered, losses you experienced, and steps you took in response led you to new and wonderful adventures that you may never have imagined without that last chapter ending. 

If I had not gone to Colorado, I would not have met the folks who ushered me into the world of horses and cows and led me to a glorious 18 years of animal-assisted psychotherapy and teaching. I would have never dreamed of being able to start such an adventure without the move to Colorado, which effectively ended my partnership office-based psychotherapy practice. Something ends and something new begins.

 ONE OF MY FAVORITE WORDS IS JOY!

WHAT BRINGS YOU THE MOST JOY?

From three diverse areas in my life – my relationships with both family of origin and family of creation, my daily activities, and my experience as a clinical psychologist – I can identify a common thread which provides me with a rich source of joy.  I find myself immensely pleased when I come upon an opportunity, or create one myself, wherein I can validate another human being. This brings me joy. 

For example, I find it meaningful – and finding meaning brings joy – in reporting work well done to someone’s supervisor or manager. Passing compliments and appreciation up the line is another win-win situation in life. Reinforcing noteworthy behavior or excellent service bodes more of the same. I like to make personal calls to store management when I see staff or employees doing a good job, and it seems to brighten everyone’s day, including mine.

Also, I have discovered in my 76 years that many individuals carry hidden emotional pain, such that a kind word, a little acknowledgment about something they did or said, or even a compliment on their appearance can make a big difference in their day. You never know the impact a simple validation may have on a fellow human being. It takes so little effort to be kind. And there is joy in knowing that we all have the capacity to touch someone else in this way.

(Black hat I’ve had for 43 years – two eras: then and now)

Physical fitness – big part of my life for past 40 years – swim laps

 OR

yoga “boat pose”

or

Pilates plank

I think THIS LADY is INCREDIBLE and I hope you enjoyed her as much as I do!

FOLLOW  her on INSTAGRAM

CLICK ON GOLD LETTERS BELOW WISE.WOMAN.AGING

 IF ONLY TO SEE HOW SHE PICKS OUT HER BACKDROPS

TO MATCH WHAT SHE IS WEARING MOSTLY WHICH COME FROM THRIFT SHOPS!

 WISE.WOMAN.AGING

 SHE ALSO HAS A YOU TUBE CHANNEL WHICH IF YOU CLICK ON THE ONLY LINK BESIDES HER INSTAGRAM IN THE POST IT WILL TAKE YOU THERE.TO FIND THAT LINK GO BACK UP TO HER BRUSHING THE COW!

LAST PARAGRAPH WOULD BE HI- LIGHTED FOR YOU AND SAYS…… EYE OF A HORSE.COM/COWS

ON ANOTHER NOTE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GET WELL CARDS AND FLOWERS……..

I HAD A LOVELY CUTE AND FUN BOUQUET COME IN WITH JUST A NAME KATHERINE THIS WEEK?

I know about SIX Katherines and no one has CLAIMED to be the sender……….

if it was YOU Will you be so kind as to TELL ME!

 AS I TRIED TO CALL THE FLORIST WHO DELIVERED AND I WILL SAVE THAT DEAD END STORY FOR ANOTHER DAY AS AFTER THREE TIMES OF SAYING MY NAME AND THEIR ORDER NUMBER I WAS TOLD THAT ORDER NUMBER DIDNOT EXSIST!

I would LOVE TO SEND YOU KATHERINE A THANK YOU CARD BY SNAIL MAIL!

AND DO YOU KNOW I STARTED MY GARDEN WITH JUST YELLOW & WHITE FLOWERS?

 XXX

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  • LA CONTESSA
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    February 21, 2023 at 2:07 PM

    YOU ARE SO WELCOME!
    I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED A COW SINCE CHILDHOOD……………
    TIME TO GET ONE!
    XXX

  • Rosemarie
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    February 20, 2023 at 4:49 PM

    CONTESSA – great interview – expanding our knowledge and meeting another interesting woman!
    She is one elegant/stylish/sophisticated dresser.
    Enjoy reading people’s insights on life. Yes, we are all moving thru the aging process. I got a chuckle re ……late 70’s…….society…..doesn’t expect much from you.
    So true to focus on the bright side of this decade. There is so much brightness!
    Psychology always interests me as I studied it and also worked for a year in a university psychology dept.
    Cows – in the early 70s I spent a week on a dairy farm in Nova Scotia (farm holiday) and spent my afternoons sitting in the pasture with the cows = so peaceful. They knew exactly when it was time to head off to the barn to be milked.
    My mother would often comment to me how growing up in Croatia she had a pet cow and would sit in the pasture and share her bread with it. She’d take a bite then the cow had a bite. She was sad when she had to leave her cow behind to come to Canada.
    Joy is so important in life – let’s continue to experience it and bring it to others.
    Thanks again for introducing us to Sandra.

    • Sandra Wise
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      February 22, 2023 at 3:54 PM

      Hello, Rosemarie. So nice to meet you here. So very kind of you to read the interview and to share your thoughts on so many of the ideas generated by the Contessa’s questions. Thanks for remarking about the fact that society doesn’t really expect too much from those of us in our late 70s, as it is indeed so true. I also enjoyed reading about your and your mother’s experiences with cows. They are certainly gentle animals who are willing to trust you if you are kind to them. And I was pleased to hear of your connection with the discipline of psychology. There certainly isn’t anything more interesting than human behavior!

    • Sandra Wise
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      February 22, 2023 at 4:03 PM

      Hello, Rosemarie. Thanks so much for reading the interview. I enjoyed reading your comments, particularly about your mother’s and your experience with cows. They are indeed gentle animals and will trust you if you are kind to them. I also appreciated your experience with the discipline of psychology. There is nothing more interesting than human behavior!

  • Lorna
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    February 20, 2023 at 3:24 AM

    Elizabeth, it always amazes me how you’re able to find the most fascinating women and we are lucky that you share them with us. I loved all the insights she gave us and the good advice. Now I just need to follow it. Ageing positively isn’t easy so it’s always encouraging to read about the experience of women like Sandra because she has a wonderful outlook on life.
    Hope you’re feeling better and back to your normal self. January must have been a very difficult month for you but I hope that the rest of the year will treat you better. I am looking forward to Spring and planting some things in my little garden. Take care xx

    • Sandra Wise
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      February 22, 2023 at 3:45 PM

      Hello, Lorna. So very kind of you to read the interview. I do appreciate your kind words and acknowledgement that “aging positively isn’t easy.” So glad that you concur on this. This is why I find it so helpful to connect with like minded women who are also going through the process. Women helping women, and Elizabeth is certainly one of those, also, which I join you in wishing her a continued recovery. We all want her to be feeling better. So nice to hear that you will be soon planting some things in your garden. This is such a healthy activity. Do have fun.

  • Mary James
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    February 18, 2023 at 4:39 AM

    You always introduce your fan club to remarkable, awe inspiring women which you are as well. At first glance I thought she was the STYLE CRONE, as they have some similarities in looks, and both with medical backgrounds. Marvelous interview chock full of advise. Although my office is a separate building across my patio, and with no employees any longer, I still get dressed, put on makeup etc. every day I cross the patio to go to my office to work. It’s my way of honoring myself and my work and makes me feel great. I too compliment people in stores that I do not know…it’s always lovely to hear, and most of all give. Lastly I too love cows and as a child fell in love with a calf at a hacienda while living in Ecuador. Such soulful animals to me. Thank you for the great interview.

    • Sandra Wise
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      February 18, 2023 at 6:36 AM

      Hello, Mary. Thank you so much for reading the interview. I appreciate your lovely reference to similarities with Judith, the Stylecrone. How marvelous to hear, as I find her to be so very special. I was actually fortunate enough to have lunch with her when I was in Denver about a year and a half ago. Such a delightful person, and we both love hats! I would like to add here that I also enjoyed hearing that you take the time and effort to get dressed and put on makeup despite the fact that you wouldn’t really have to. It’s such a positive and uplifting thing to do, as is freely complimenting folks around you. Bravo! It does, indeed, make the world a better place. And how about the fact that you have an appreciation of cows! This is something that most people totally do not understand. The thought of you thinking kindly of them warms my heart.

  • Jill James
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    February 17, 2023 at 9:23 PM

    Thank you Elizabeth for this wonderful interview with Sandra. I do follow Sandra on Instagram but it was so interesting to read more of her life story and perspective on ageing. I couldn’t agree more on the positive aspects of sharing our journeys. I always admire Sandra’s well put together outfits and her wonderful style .

    • Sandra Wise
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      February 18, 2023 at 6:20 AM

      Hello, Jill. So very kind of you to read the interview. Elizabeth is, indeed, a facilitator of the concept of sharing our journeys, besides being a delightful person in and of herself. I do so appreciate your lovely feedback. Thank you so much.

  • Sandra Wise
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    February 17, 2023 at 1:02 PM

    Hello, Judith. My heart is warmed by your kind and generous words. I am so happy that the messages throughout the interview resonated with you. As a therapist and corporate trainer, I know that you have been exposed to some interesting aspects of life and human behavior. There’s nothing more interesting than the psychology of human beings. I appreciate your favorite saying you quoted here. So glad to know that you carry that with you and keep the awareness of others’ private pain and battles in the front of your mind. The world would be a better place if more of us did this. Thanks so much for reading the interview.

  • Judith
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    February 16, 2023 at 8:39 PM

    Elizabeth, you know that I love all of your posts, but this one is up there at the top. This beautiful, classy, genuine woman speaks to my condition. I am a professionally-trained therapist, but used it in teaching and educational work and as a corporate trainer. I share so many of Sandra’s beliefs, including looking on the positive side, freely giving compliments to strangers, and considering other people for where they are – one of my favorite sayings is, “Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about; be kind, always.” In these ways, Sandra is beautiful on the inside. Her outward beauty is obvious in the photos. I can tell that she truly enjoys this photography project, and it made me smile to see this. She has such an ease and grace about her, and is someone I could be friends with instantly. Thank you so much for featuring her, Elizabeth, and thank you for participating, Sandra. You have encouraged me to learn more about volunteering at a local therapeutic horse-riding academy, an idea I have only toyed with until now. Very best wishes to you, and please come back on the Contessa’s blog.

  • D. A. Squires
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    February 16, 2023 at 1:44 PM

    Dr. Wise is so lovely and inspiring and interesting… a beautiful person inside and out. And she reminds me of you in so many ways! Caring about others perhaps most of all (and most importantly),,. but there’s also the PIG, fabulous style, and being great communicators. I’m approaching my seventh decade so reading this was a GOOD jolt about exercise and attitude. I am a FL resident so very interested in the 4,700 acre wildlife sanctuary (and adored the video of the gorgeous cow-in-training) and wonder if open to visitors. (I follow another v. special cow on twitter at a NY state sanctuary, Squirrelwood Equine Sanctuary, named Crouton.. M_Crouton on twitter. They do equine therapy for vets and others). Hope you are feeling much better these days, Contessa, keep us posted… XO

    • Sandra Wise
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      February 17, 2023 at 12:49 PM

      What a lovely response to Contessa’s blog post. So happy that you found it interesting. Thank you for your interest in the wildlife preserve where Lucy Daisy, the cow, lives. Unfortunately, it is not opened to visitors, but I’m so pleased that you have an understanding and appreciation for cows and the sanctuary in NY state. The special therapeutic work they do — as is true of all animal-assisted therapies — is truly one of the most effective healing approaches I have ever seen. And I also want to add my appreciation for you viewing Lucy Daisy’s early history in the video. It was so meaningful for me to get to train her to interact with humans and help them heal. I also join with you in hoping that our dear Contessa continues to feel better and better.

  • cynthiahattersley
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    February 16, 2023 at 12:44 PM

    What a fascinating lady! Words of wisdom for those of us at a certain age, and I love her style. That polka dot topper over the skirt is wonderful!! Thank you so much for introducing us!

    • Sandra Wise
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      February 17, 2023 at 12:35 PM

      Hello, Cynthia. What lovely feedback. So very kind of you. Glad you liked the polka dot topper photo. It was an attempt to style it with a “New Look” Dior feel to go with the vintage hat, which belonged to my mother-in-law.

  • Karen
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    February 15, 2023 at 8:10 PM

    I read the blog last night. It motivated me to get dressed. I’m home and not in my pajamas. I even curled my hair and painted my nails. Most importantly, for me, I did NOT get on the scale.
    Thank you for your words of wisdom AND keep the cow pictures coming.
    Best regards,

    • Sandra Wise
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      February 17, 2023 at 12:30 PM

      Hello, Karen. I love your marvelous comment. I’m so happy that you gained motivation from the words. You never know where insight, inspiration, and motivation might come from. That’s why you always have to stay engaged with the world. I’m also so pleased that you liked Lucy Daisy’s photos. I will pass that message along to her!

  • Lisa Self
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    February 15, 2023 at 3:08 PM

    Sandra, what an eclectic life you have led with such a variety of activities, and accomplishments in amazing locales! Japan is one of my favorite countries to have visited.
    Is there one of these places that was your favorite?

    As my husband and I currently live in Durango Colorado, I was wondering where you were located when you lived here?

    I so enjoyed your creative photos with your graceful beauty in these thoughtful locations.

    Thank you Contessa for sharing this amazing, talented, smart, beautiful woman!

    • Sandra Wise
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      February 16, 2023 at 6:59 AM

      Hello, Lisa. Thank you so much for reading the interview. I’m glad that you got to visit Japan, as it was one of my favorite places to live since we were there long enough to get a bit immersed in the culture. As for Colorado, we have a tiny home in the foothills of the Rockies in Cheyenne canyon, Colorado Springs. Once again, thank you so much for reading, and I truly appreciate your kind compliments.

  • Michele
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    February 15, 2023 at 10:20 AM

    Wow what a fascinating and inspiring person! I loved this interview and learning about Sandra’s life. I especially loved her advice about the mind body connection and simple acts of kindness. Thank you for sharing this with us – I’m sure her life would make a fabulous book or movie! (As would yours Elizabeth)

    • Sandra Wise
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      February 15, 2023 at 1:23 PM

      Thank you, Michele, for your kind response to the interview. So glad that the mind-body connection concept resonated with you. It is, indeed, a powerful force that we can embrace and harness to help us. Taking care of our body ultimately aids our attitude, emotions, and thoughts. And, of course, it works the other way around, also. Guarding against negative attitudes, emotions, and thoughts can aid our physical bodies.

  • Sandra Sallin
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    February 15, 2023 at 10:07 AM

    Wow, this was a fascinating interview. What a talented and wise (ha) women. I really enjoyed her writing. in fact I spent more time reading and less looking. i love the idea of inmates learning through animals.She’s so right about a little kindness shown to others. I love making the day of a checker at the market. I loved her beautiful writing. A pleasure to read. What a glorious figure. Maybe I shouldn’t eat that cookie.I wonder what her husband did in the government. My hats off to her for being able to move around and not completely breaking down. Truly a woman to admire.

    • Sandra Wise
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      February 15, 2023 at 1:14 PM

      Hello, Sandra. Thank you so much for the wonderful feedback. I’m so glad to hear that you value the writing over the photos. This is how I feel, also. I know that Instagram (the only social media I have ever used) is primarily a visual medium, but I value the words more and definitely put more effort into the writing. At the same time, one does have to employ a “hook” of sorts to capture potential readers. Hence, the fashion photos, as many women do love and enjoy fashion. I also appreciate your response to the animal-assisted psychotherapy work that I have done. I find it to be so much more effective that office-based “talk” therapy. It has been the most meaningful work I have every done. And lastly, Sandra, as a psychologist I have never given advice (that’s actually not the job of a therapist), but if you were my client, I might just whisper in your ear as you were walking out, “If you would like to bring two cookies to your next session, we can eat them together.” (Just a bit of therapist humor here.) Thanks again for reading the interview and for your warm and sincere response.

  • PPP
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 5:37 PM

    Ma Chere Contessa,
    This was an interesting interview with an exceptional person.
    Sandra’s modeling poses were fun and creative, but it was her reinvention of herself, over time, that was most informative. She certainly has excellent advice on how to approach life and achieve satisfaction. Wise words.
    Enjoyable post!

    PPP

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 15, 2023 at 12:49 PM

      What lovely feedback. I do so appreciate your kind words. Sometimes reinvention is the only reasonable choice we have. So glad you enjoyed the interview. Thank you for your comments.

  • Juliet
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 4:16 PM

    What fun! So inspiring. Absolutely adore her zebra print dress. Wonderful interview! xo

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 15, 2023 at 12:45 PM

      Thank you, Juliet, for the lovely compliment regarding the zebra dress. How we women do love our animal prints! I can’t get enough of them. So very kind of you to read the interview and to share your positive response.

  • lisa thomson-author
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 4:05 PM

    What an accomplished woman! Beautiful and classy outfits. I like Sandra’s advice to not consider the actual pieces by name, but to think of shapes or other more abstract descriptions when putting an outfit together.
    LA CONTESSA, thank you so much for this wonderful interview. I have learned a great deal from this and the reminder to be kind and pass up the compliments is always appreciated.

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 15, 2023 at 12:42 PM

      Hello, Lisa. Thank you for the lovely comments and feedback. I appreciate you relating that it is also meaningful for you to “pass up the compliments.” It is so easy to forget, as we share an appreciation with a clerk or a worker, that taking the extra step to also pass it along to a manager or boss would likely be helpful for — and appreciated by — the person. So very kind of you to share your thoughts, Lisa.

  • Trish
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 3:37 PM

    So wonderful to read your guest’s interview. It’s refreshing to hear that she forgot to fret about aging because she was busy pursuing a life. Great words of advice to look to the future when life inevitably changes rather than missing what was. XOXO

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 15, 2023 at 12:31 PM

      I love the way you have phrased this, Trish. I couldn’t have said it better myself. So glad the message resonated with you, and so kind of you to comment.

  • Katherine
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 3:28 PM

    Hi Elizabeth,
    What a wonderful interview you had with Sandra.
    Wow, what a beautiful person inside and out and how you lead your life Sandra in such a positive and uplifting way. I so agree with you it’s so important to share any encouraging words that you have in your heart to share with people that you care about.
    Your travels and living in so many parts of the United States has built you into the person you are. It’s not easy moving around like you have and starting over each time. I admire your adaptability and courage to power through each time.
    What state and city or country for living in has been your favorite?

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 15, 2023 at 12:28 PM

      Thank you for these wonderfully supportive words, Katherine. Glad to know that you also see the merit of sharing encouraging words with people that you care about. It really does make a difference. As to my favorite place that we have lived, I did enjoy Japan, in part because I was able to immerse myself in the culture a bit. I also love Colorado here in the USA because of the scenic beauty of the gorgeous Rocky Mountains. Thank you so much for reading the article, Katherine, and for the kind response.

  • 1010ParkPlace
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 2:46 PM

    She’s beautiful and as a woman in my 70’s, I can tell you it’s been an adjustment for me in almost every way. xoxo, Brenda

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 15, 2023 at 12:18 PM

      Hello, Brenda. There is a wonderful quote that I read years ago that goes something like this: “The ones who survive are not necessarily the most intellectually gifted or the ones with the greatest physical strength. They are the ones who can best adjust and adapt to change.” I do think there is something about that that could apply to the aging process. So kind of you to add your thoughts here, and I do so appreciate your kind compliment.

  • Marleah
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 1:44 PM

    Great blog post Elizabeth, I’m glad you’re feeling better.
    I’m following Sandra on IG and find her incredibly informative and interesting.

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 15, 2023 at 12:10 PM

      Hello, Marleah. Thank you for the kind words (and the IG follow). Your support and encouragement is much appreciated. And I’m with you in celebrating the fact that Elizabeth is feeling a bit better!

  • Dee Black
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 1:33 PM

    This was so good…
    takes time to stop and absorb and process.
    Sandra, proves to me we are the same person all through life. If we listen to our voice, we can achieve our authentic life all our life. Sandra stays present.
    I have also moved most of my life. Now, thanks to Sandra, I understand why I focus on places rather than decades.
    I also tried to use the moves as opportunities to grow and experience new things. Not to focus on what you left behind.
    Yes….cultural view of aging has certainly become evident to me this past year (68). Great advice from Sandra how to feed the positive mirror reflection. Pastures are for beloved animals, not women with so much more life to live and share. Even though I am enjoying more pj days now.
    Soooo not surprised Contessa gravitated to Sandra Wise. Kindred spirits.
    Loved every single word.

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 15, 2023 at 12:06 PM

      Hello, Dee. What marvelous feedback you have provided here. I love the way you speak of authenticity. I agree with you that this only comes if you listen to your own voice — not that of others. I also loved that you, too, focus on places rather than decades, as those who have not moved so much find this approach difficult to relate to. And such a lovely bit of humor you add at the end about enjoying more pj days now. (Me, too! Even though we are not ready to be put out to pasture!)

  • kim
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 8:13 AM

    Adore this post and what an inspiration Sandra is! She has great style and wow what neat person. More than that though, I love her advice about living life and it seems she is spreading good vibes wherever she goes. I love complimenting people and the workers who do a great job. Spreading love is a great message and a happy way to live. No wonder she’s thriving. Lovely post for Valentines! x

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 14, 2023 at 8:55 AM

      Hello, Kim. I’m so delighted that you enjoyed the article, and I truly thank you for your lovely response and kind comments. So glad that you have experienced the joy of validating others, as it is, like you say, “a happy way to live.”

  • Leslie Lord
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 7:49 AM

    Lovely interview and such wonderful insights on maintaining one’s style…my beloved mom was very stylish and always dressed up even if she was staying at home. Dr.Wise has so many inspiring ideas! I definitely enjoyed this post and will pop over to her Instagram fir a visit.

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 14, 2023 at 8:50 AM

      Hello, Leslie. What a marvelous response to Elizabeth’s post. Thank you for your kind words, and thank you for sharing the personal story about your mom. I think that’s wonderful. Thank you so much for reading the interview.

  • Celeste
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 7:28 AM

    What a great post! Thank you Dr.Wise. And thank you Elizabeth for bringing her to us. I hope you are starting to feel much better.

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 14, 2023 at 7:44 AM

      You are most welcome, Celeste. So glad you liked it. Elizabeth is so much fun to work with. I hope to meet her in person some day. And I’m with you, Celeste, in wishing the best for her full recovery. Thanks so much for reading the interview.

  • Rena McDaniel
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 6:32 AM

    She’s very talented at what she does. The images are superb! I love the one with the cows of course, but there are a few others that are so glamourous! I wish I were that stylish!

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 14, 2023 at 7:19 AM

      What a lovely comment, Rena. I do so appreciate your kind words, and I thank you for reading the article. I am spending time with Lucy Daisy the cow today and will tell her you liked her photo!

  • Gray
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 6:16 AM

    A wonderful wonderful post. I now have guilt that I spend so much time in my bathrobe. Where does she live? Such nice backdrops! And what a wardrobe! Great one Elizabeth!

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 14, 2023 at 7:15 AM

      Hello, there. I live in Florida in a relatively small town so finding interesting backdrops is often a challenge. Hence, I do so appreciate your kind compliment. As for my wardrobe, the majority is thrifted — so much fun and very affordable. Thanks so much for commenting.

  • Nena
    · Reply

    February 14, 2023 at 5:00 AM

    Superb interview!

    • Sandra Wise
      · Reply

      February 14, 2023 at 7:08 AM

      The Contessa definitely knows how to ask penetrating questions. Thanks so much for reading my feeble answers.

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